Wake Up Lahore Zaid Hamid And Maria B

Zaid Hamid should also talk with university students in Peshawar, Quetta, and Karachi.

Excellent Show I wish i also Participate to this Tremendous Event.
Congratulate Mr.Zaid Hamid and Maria B.

I Can Talk u on Phone and we Arrange this Event in Karachi Also@ My Home 70 Clifton is Available

I was invited to this lecture and I sat through the entire thing. This was the beginning of a series where a team would travel to every city of Pakistan, promoting their message. Maria B organized this one and Zaid Hamid and Ali Azmat were the key guests.

Before criticizing anyone, do a bit of background check. All the necessary information is out there for you to explore.

I have heard similar things number of times, I have questions if anyone can help me understand. These stories that Zaid talks about, related to very old times, example victory over Persian etc. How many of these stories have origin in Pakistan or is he claiming every Muslim victories.

you know why Pakistan Nuclear bomb was called Islamic bomb by all muslim countries? because they consider it part of Muslim world the Ummah. Although it is Pakistan property, the muslim world still feel proud that a muslim country has a nuclear bomb, from Bangladesh to Malaysia to Turkey. All muslims felt proud when Pakistan detonated Nuclear bomb.

Today, No Politician think in terms of United interest of Muslims. They only care about themselves from Pakistan president to Egypt, Jordan, Saudi arabia. Thats why when, Iraq, Afghanistan was attacked, Muslim protested but the Politicians didnt care. That is the reason Muslim world is so behind because of this thinking.

Zaid Hamid is telling us that when Muslims are united togther then that is the only time when you can succeed in your objectives. This is what Prophet Muhammed said to Muslims.

I hope you get what i am trying to say.

Truely amaziing….its good some body is making efforts to bring hope back in Pakistanies..

The only thing he forgot to mention was that the Prophet Muhammad was born in Sahiwal to Mijaz Bhatti and Aima Sarvar. What a nerd

Sorry he is totaly wrong in the case of Allama Iqbal and Quaide Azam. The idea was not iqbal its totaly lie. Quaid has been called by some body else.. Bilkul jhut bola hai zaid hamid. i dont know why we change history. Iqbal is a good poet no doubt but to present him as a great Muslim scholar, i dont know why. there is great contradiction in iqbal poetry..

Yes I agree with Mr. Tayyeb. Iqbal was more of a fool and and got into this poetry stuff because he failed in romance and was depressed. As with Quaid-e-Azam, it was Mr Tayyeb’s great grandfather who brought him back. The Quaid only made Pakistan because he had grudge against the Indians and he did this as a revenge. Pakistan should hand over all weapons to the UN and shrink its army to a glorified police force as Inidans are our brothers and ancestors and we have no threat from them. As for Zaid Hamid, he is only a fame seeking adventurist who wants money to stop all the blasphemy. I was there when Angel Gibrael came down to reveal this to Mr. Tayyeb and I am a witness to his truthful comments.

I am sure Mr. Tayyeb can lead us to our destined glory of acceding back to India but only once he stops watching Indian “culture” dancing its splendor off of the hips of sari clad Hindu women and lifts his lousy ass off the couch to show us the way. He has a tough job ahead, so I am sure you people won’t mind him getting some eye soothing and mouth watering entertainment before he begins the job!

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Hitman, who ever you are, I loved the way you replied. This was a good laugh.
I support Mr. Zaid Hamid and wish I could help out practically in some way….

Nice Videos . Mr Zahid hamid dilivered an awesome motivational lecture .
also great achievement by Maria B.

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

may allah bless mr zaid hamid who carries our leader ideas this time

really amazing may god bless mr zaid hamid a true pakistani

It is good effort to teach the young generation.
I am realy very happy. Very good video.
May Allah give you long life.
PAKISTAN ZINDA BAD QUAID-E-AZAM TABINDA BAD

Zaid Sir I love you. You look very handsome and dynamic. You look like a Hollywood hero, you look so attractive, marvellous in your blue suite and red cap, Tom cruze is nothing infornt of you. We girls of our college, fantasize about you, I bought all of your posters and pasted in my bed room. I don’t know how to contact you.
Hey friends, does anyone got Zaid Sir’s number. “ Sir, I want to marry you”.

mr hamid’s thinking isgof

mr hamids thinking is positive and good but i somehow feel he wants 2 b portrayed as last decsendent of the Prophet pbuh .. The Mehdi

well done ZAID bhai you are exealent on that occassion . pakistan needs peoples like you . i am with u and i will with u INSHA ALLAH…….

PLEASE reply me and send me ur contacts also.

Rauf Ahmed Bajwa, SIALKOT

im really glad people like you are you are coming up and boosting patriotism. i would love to participate its high time we do something for our country.

PAKISTAN is our life…..

Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet, he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.[10]

“A tradtionalist told me from one who had told him from Muhammad b. Talha from Uthman v. Abdul-Rahman that in the raid of Muharib and B. Thalaba the apostle had captured a slave called Yasar, and he put him in charge of his milch-camels to shepherd them in the neighborhood of al-Jamma. Some men of Qays of Kubba of Bajila came to the apostle suffering from an epidemic and enlarged spleens, and the apostle told them that if they went to the milch camels and drank their milk and their urine they would recover, so off they went.

From The Sirat Rasul Allah ( The Life of The Prophet of God ), by Ibn Ishaq (3) pages 677, 678

Ibn al-Qayyim said:
The author of al-Qanoon (the Canon) – i.e. the doctor Ibn Seena (Avicenna) – said:

The most beneficial of urine is the urine of Bedouin camels which are called najeeb.

Pedophilia
Many critics of Islam claim Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha was a pedophilic relationship, therefore Muhammad was a pedophile.

Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: “Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.”

Sahih Muslim 8:3310
In psychiatry, the most commonly used diagnostic criteria for diagnosing psychiatric ailments are those from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders. The latest issue is DSM-IV-TR. The DSM classification is a system that classifies and defines all accepted psychiatric ailments and symptoms, with their inclusion and exclusion criteria. The following are the inclusion and exclusion criteria for pedophilia (302.2):

[edit] Pedophilia according to DSM-IV-TR
A. Over a period of at least six months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: This does not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

PsychiatryOnline – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition
“According to the DSM-IV definition, pedophilia involves sexual activity by an adult with a prepubescent child. Some individuals prefer females, usually 8- to 10-year-olds. Those attracted to males usually prefers slightly older children. Some prefer both sexes. While some are sexually attracted only to children, others also are sometimes attracted to adults.
Pedophiliac activity may involve undressing and looking at the child or more direct physical sex acts. All these activities are psychologically harmful to the child, and some may be physically harmful. In addition, individuals with pedophilia often go to great lengths to obtain photos, films or pornographic publications that focus on sex with children.

These individuals commonly explain their activities with excuses or rationalizations that the activities have “educational value” for the child, that the child feels “sexual pleasure” from the activities or that the child was “sexually provocative.” However, child psychiatrists and other child development experts maintain that children are incapable of offering informed consent to sex with an adult. Furthermore, since pedophiliac acts harm the child, psychiatrists condemn publications or organizations that seek to promote or normalize sex between adults and children.”

Medem.com – Diagnostic Critiera for Pedophilia
In the following article, it will be shown that Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha did indeed meet all the criteria to make the diagnosis of pedophilia, and therefore Muhammad was undoubtedly a pedophile.

[edit] Was Muhammad a Pedophile?
Modern day Islamic apologists, and Islamophiles alike, will very often claim that Aisha had reached puberty by the time Muhammad married and had sexual intercourse with her. However, they never provide verifiable proof for this bold assertion. Instead, they rely on the culture and traditional practices of 7th Century Arabia as evidence of their claim. This is of course completely false, as demonstrated by the hadith and the commentary of one of Islam’s most famous scholars, Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-’Asqalani, Commander of the Faithful in Hadith, Qadi of Egypt, and author of the celebrated commentary on Sahih Bukhari, “Fateh al-Bari.”

To prove that Aisha was still pre-pubescent when Muhammad married and had sex with her, one has to understand Ibn Hajar’s explanation of the permissibility of doll-playing for pre-pubescent girls in Islam. Applying this doll-playing exegesis to the ahadith of Aisha getting married or when she first had sex with Muhammad, one can effectively demonstrate that she was pre-pubescent on these occasions This evidence will be examined in the following three sections.

[edit] Only pre-pubescent girls were allowed to play with dolls
This is what the great hadith scholar, Shaykh al-Islam Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-’Asqalani, Commander of the Faithful in Hadith, Qadi of Egypt, had to say in regards to doll-playing and little girls:

[edit] Sahih Bukhari 8:7:151
Narrated ‘Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151
How do we know that it was Ibn Hajar who made the above (bolded) doll-playing exegesis? We know this by the reference to Fateh-al-Bari and also due to the fact that when we look at other translations of Bukhari 8:73:151, the same message is conveyed.

[edit] Alternative Translations
[edit] One
On the authority of Aisha (RA), who said: I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (SAW). And I had girl-friends (playmates) who played along with me. They would hide (feeling shy) from him (SAW) whenever he entered. But, he (SAW) would send for them to join me and they would play with me. (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)

TheMuslimWoman.com – Girls playing with Dolls
The translator then provides some discussion on translations of various versions of this hadith before he follows up with Ibn Hajar and Fath-al-Bari:

Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Baaree (Fath al-Baaree, no. 6130, Kitaab: al-Adab, Baab: al-Inbisaat ilaa an-Naas): This Hadith has been used as a proof for the permissibility of possessing (suwar – of) dolls and toys for the purpose of the little girls playing with them. This has been especially exempted from the general prohibition of possession of images (suwar).

TheMuslimWoman.com – Girls playing with Dolls
[edit] Two
But if these images and dolls are toys for children, the Sunnah indicates that they are permissible. In al-Saheehayn it is narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and I had female friends who would play with me…” al-Bukhaari, 6130; Muslim, 2440. Ibn Hajar said: This hadeeth indicates that it is permissible to have images of girls (i.e., dolls) and toys for girls to play with. This is an exception from the general meaning of the prohibition on having images. This was stated by ‘Iyaad and was narrated from the majority. They permitted the sale of dolls to girls so as to teach them from a young age how to take care of their homes and children. Ibn Hibbaan stated that it is permissible for young girls to play with toys…

Answering-Islam.org – Revisiting the Issue of Muhammad’s Marriage with a child bride
[edit] Three
Aaishah said, “I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (pbuh), and my girlfriends used to play along with me. Whenever, Allaah’s Messenger (pbuh) would enter, they would hide from him. So he called them to play with me.” In the classical commentary on Saheeh al-Bukhaare entitled Fat-h al-Baaree, Ibn Hajar al-’Asqalaanee wrote the following: “This hadeeth is used as evidence for the permissibility of making dolls and toys with human and animal forms for the purpose of girls playing with them. This category has been specifically excluded from the general prohibition against making images. ‘Iyaad stated this to be categorically so and related that it was the position of the majority of scholars. He further related that they permitted the selling of toys for girls in order to train them from their youth in their household affairs and in dealing with their children…”

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Note the great similarity in the commentary of Ibn Hajar in Fateh al-Bari to all four versions of the hadith. The words are different due to the different translators but the essential message is unchanged – only little girls (i.e. before puberty) are permitted to play with dolls.

[edit] Does the phrase ‘little girls’ mean pre-pubescent?
How do we know that these “little girls” are pre-pubescent? This is due to Islamic customs and laws specifically stating so.

For example:

Girls reach puberty and adulthood when they experience the above three signs. However, they have a fourth sign, that is, menstruation (hayd). Whenever a girl experiences it, she is a woman even if she is 12 years old.

USC MSA – For Whom is Fasting Necessary?
Islam clearly teaches that adulthood begins once a person has attained puberty.[1] [2] These Islamic websites provide us with the evidence, that in Islam when a girl reaches puberty, she ceases to be considered a girl and becomes a woman. Therefore, little girls must be pre-pubescent according to Islamic customs and laws.

We also have commentaries by hadith scholars that reinforce this point:

Al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad has stated this position with definiteness, and transmitted it as the position of the Majority (Jumhoor) of the Scholars; and that they declared permissible the selling of toys/dolls (al-lu’ab) for little girls, to train them from childhood for the household responsibilities and child-rearing. Al-Khattaabee said: … it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa’eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to Aisha (RA) is because she had not, at that time, reached the age of puberty.

TheMuslimWoman.com – Girls Playing with Dolls
… Abu ‘Ubaid, who said: We don’t see there being any reason for that (permission to play with her dolls), except due to the fact that these toys are a source of amusement (lahw) for the children. So, if they were owned by adults, it would definitely have been detestable (makhrooh).

TheMuslimWoman.com – Possession of Dolls By Little Girls
[edit] Aisha was pre-pubescent when Muhammad consummated the marriage
“My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.”

Tabari IX:131
This hadith suggests that Muhammad had sex with Aisha in her house on her wedding day. However, was this event really on her wedding day? This is proven by the Sahih Bukhari hadith below. Note the similarity in accounts, although the Bukhari 5:58:234 hadith is more expansive on the fact that the events took place on Aisha’s wedding day:

Narrated Aisha: “The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

Sahih Muslim 8:3311
Also note that Sahih Muslim says Aisha still had her dolls with her when she was taken to Muhammad’s house as a bride. Applying Ibn Hajar’s doll-playing exegesis from Part 1, it becomes clear that Aisha was pre-pubescent when she became a bride.

Therefore, it is abundantly clear from the hadiths, that Aisha was pre-pubescent when Muhammad first had sex with her on her wedding day.

[edit] Consummating the marriage means sexual intercourse

3 year old child-bride Sunam, dressed up in her bridal outfit.The following proof is slightly controversial due to the fact that Sunan Abu Dawud is not unanimously accepted by Muslims to be Sahih (authentic). However, Sunan Abu Dawud is still the third most respected collection of ahadith, and the relevant narration used here is considered Sahih by some of the most authoritative ahadith scholars, includin Shaykh Abdul Azeez al-Qaari’ (Imam of Masjid Qubaa and professor of tafseer Quranic recitation at the Islamic University of Medina).

“Aisha said, “The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old.” (The narrator Sulaiman said: “Or six years.”). “He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old.”

Abu-Dawud 2:2116
Here we see that Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old. Is this age confirmed by any other (Sahih) ahadith? Yes it is:

Narrated Hisham’s father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed (sic – consummated) that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65
Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr’s version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

Abu Dawud 41:4915
Apologists will insist that the term ‘consummate the marriage’ means ‘nikah’ , not sex. This is in spite of the Abu-Dawud hadith Vol. 2, #2116 translation that explicitly states ‘intercourse’ . Be that as it may, does ‘consummate the marriage’ mean sex? Here is proof that it does:

There has been some confusion about the definition of the word “consummate”. In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, #64, the root word used is “dakhala”. From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means “to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman”.

Ex-Muslim.com – EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN HER MARRIAGE TO MUHAMMAD WAS CONSUMMATED
But how do we know that at the age of nine Aisha was still pre-pubescent? Here is the evidence from Sunan Abu-Dawud, Vol. 3, #4914 (This hadith is also repeated in Sunan Nasa’i):

Possession of Dolls By Little Girls:

On the authority of Aisha (RA), that she said: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) returned from the battle of Tabook or Khaibar (the narrator of the hadith was in doubt about whether he was told “Tabook or Khaibar.”). There was a curtain covering her ‘sahwah’ (chamber or small room in front of the house). The wind blew a side of the curtain and uncovered Aisha’s dolls. He (SAW) said: What is this, O Aisha? She said: My dolls. The he (SAW) saw amongst them a horse with two wings from scraps of cloth. He (SAW) said: What is this which I see amongst them (amongst the dolls)? She said: A horse. He asked: What is upon it? She said: Two wings. He (SAW) asked (in astonishment): A horse with two wings? She said: Didn’t you hear that Sulaiman (Solomon – AS) had horses with wings? She said: Then he (SAW) laughed until I saw his molar teeth. [3]

[Abu Daawood, An-Nasaa'iee as-Sunan al-Kubraa, Albani (ra) says the chain of narrators of an-Nasaa'ee is authentic (Saheeh). As for the chain of narrators of Abu Daawood, Albani (ra) has also declared it to be authentic (saheeh)]
Shaykh Muhammad Shams al-Haqq al-’Adheem Aabaadee, in his Sharh (explanation) of Sunan Abu-Dawud, says:

This hadith and the one before it (Hadith #20) is used as an evidence of permissibility of possession of dolls and toys for the purpose of little girls playing with them. This (permission) is a special exception from the general prohibition of possession of images (suwar). This position has been stated with certainty by al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad, and he has quoted it as the opinion of the Jumhoor (Majority of Scholars). He also said that the Jumhoor has allowed the sale of toys (dolls) for little girls, in order to train and prepare them from childhood for their household affairs and the raising of their children.
According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah. The battle of Khaibar took place in Muharram-Safar 7 AH. The siege of Tabuk took place in Rajab 9 AH. Therefore, to be generous, I will accept the Khaibar explanation and not the later, Tabuk explanation.

It is generally accepted that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 in the year 3 BH. This is confirmed by reports that the marriage was consummated in Shawwal, which came seven months after the Prophet’s hijra from Makkah to al-Medinah.

Shaykh Muhammad Shams al-Haqq al-’Adheem Aabaadee
So the Abu-Dawud hadith says that Aisha was still playing with dolls as late as 7 AH. That is 6 or 7 years after her marriage. Using the doll-playing exegesis of Ibn Hajar, Abu Ubaid, al-Qaadee ‘Iyaad, and Shaykh Muhammad Shams al-Haqq, Aisha did not reach puberty until at least 6 to 7 years after her marriage when she would have been about 15 or 16 years old, but lets say 14 years old to be generous.

[edit] Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4914
Note that some apologists will try to say that this hadith is not sahih. They will use the following translation of the same hadith and highlight the phrase “the narrator is doubtful”:

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin:

When the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.

He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.

Abu Dawud 41:4914
The evidence that this hadith is indeed sahih, and that the phrase “the narrator is doubtful” does not mean to imply that the hadith itself is doubtful, but the fact that the narrator was doubtful in regards to whether or not he was told it was Khaybar or Tabuk, is as follows:

[edit] Proof One
Various versions of the hadith include confirmation that it is sahih/authenticated/authentic, including one that refers to Sahih Abu-Dawud (a collection of Abu-Dawud hadiths that are deemed sahih):

On the authority of Aisha (RA), that she said: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) returned from the battle of Tabook or Khaibar (the narrator of the hadith was in doubt about whether he was told “Tabook or Khaibar.”). There was a curtain covering her ‘sahwah’ (chamber or small room in front of the house). The wind blew a side of the curtain and uncovered Aisha’s dolls. He (SAW) said: What is this, O Aisha? She said: My dolls. The he (SAW) saw amongst them a horse with two wings from scraps of cloth. He (SAW) said: What is this which I see amongst them (amongst the dolls)? She said: A horse. He asked: What is upon it? She said: Two wings. He (SAW) asked (in astonishment): A horse with two wings? She said: Didn’t you hear that Sulaiman (Solomon – AS) had horses with wings? She said: Then he (SAW) laughed until I saw his molar teeth. [4]

Abu Daawood, An-Nasaa’iee as-Sunan al-Kubraa, Albani (ra) says the chain of narrators of an-Nasaa’ee is authentic (Saheeh). As for the chain of narrators of Abu Daawood, Albani (ra) has also declared it to be authentic (saheeh)

Aboo Daawood and an-Nasaa’ee collected this hadeeth in another chain from Aaishah in which she said, “When Allaah’s Messenger (pbuh) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar, the wind raised an end of a curtain which hung in front of my closet, revealing some dolls which belonged to me. He asked me, ‘What is this?’ I replied: My dolls. He saw among them a horse made of wrapped cloth with wings, and asked, ‘What is this I am seeing among them?’ I replied: A horse. He asked, ‘A horse with wings?’ I replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? Allaah’s Messenger (pbuh) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.”

5 Sunan Abu Dawud, vol. 3, p. 1373, no.4914 and authenticated in Saheeh Sunan Abee Daawood, vol. 3, p. 932, no. 4123.
This hadith is very clear that the meaning of playthings (lu‘ab) mentioned in the earlier narration does not refer to humans. [5]

On the authority of Aa’ishah (radiyallahu anha), who said: ‘The Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) returned from the battle of Tabook or it was Khaybar. There was a curtain over my room. The wind blew, lifting the curtain and exposing a part of my room in which, Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) saw some dolls with which Aa’ishah (radhi allahu anhu) used to play. He said: “What is this O Aa’ishah?” She replied ‘my daughters (Arabs used to call dolls, daughters). He saw among them a horse with two wings made out of a piece of cloth. He said: “What is this?” She replied: ‘A horse’ He said: “and what are those on the horses?” She replied: ‘Two wings’ He said: “A horse with two wings?!” Aa’ishah said: ‘The Prophet laughed until I could see his molar teeth.’ [6]

[Authentic - Abu Dawood An Nisa'ee in Al-Ishrah]
Not only is the chain of narrators authentic according to Albani – but two other Islamic sources say ‘authentic’ or ‘authenticated.’

[edit] Proof Two
The version taken from the The Muslim Woman site states that, “the narrator of the hadith was in doubt about whether he was told “Tabook or Khaibar”. That is, not in doubt about the hadith.

[edit] Proof Three
Alternative translations do not carry the word ‘doubt’:

Also on the authority of Aisha who said: “The Prophet (saw) returned from the battle of Tabuk, or it was Khaybar. There was a curtain over her room. The wind blew, lifting the curtain and exposing part of the room in which the Prophet (saw) saw some dolls with which Aisha used to play. He said, “What is this, O Aisha?” She said: “My daughters.” (Arabs used to call dolls for “daughters”) He saw among them a horse with two wings made of pieces of cloth. He said “And what is this in the middle?” She said, “A horse.” He said, “and what are those on the horse?” She said: “Two wings.” He said, ”A horse with two wings?!” Aisha said: “The Prophet (saw) laughed until I could see his molar teeth”[7]

(Abu Daawood, an-Nasaa’ee)
On the authority of Aa’ishah (radiyallahu anha), who said: ‘The Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) returned from the battle of Tabook or it was Khaybar. There was a curtain over my room. The wind blew, lifting the curtain and exposing a part of my room in which, Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) saw some dolls with which Aa’ishah (radhi allahu anhu) used to play. He said: “What is this O Aa’ishah?” She replied ‘my daughters (Arabs used to call dolls, daughters). He saw among them a horse with two wings made out of a piece of cloth. He said: “What is this?” She replied: ‘A horse’ He said: “and what are those on the horses?” She replied: ‘Two wings’ He said: “A horse with two wings?!” Aa’ishah said: ‘The Prophet laughed until I could see his molar teeth.’[8]

[Authentic - Abo Dawood An Nisa'ee in Al-Ishrah]
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Authoritative Islamic scholars still use this hadith in their judgment of Islamic laws and customs. Shaykh Abdul Azeez al-Qaari’ (Imaam of Masjid Qubaa and professor of tafseer and Quranic recitation at the Islamic University of Madeenah) had this to say about image-making in al-Usrah:

“Regarding the hadeeth of Aaishah that she played with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (pbuh), and, in some versions of the hadeeth, that one of the dolls was in the shape of a winged horse, and that when the Prophet (pbuh) asked her about it, she replied, ‘Didn’t you hear that [Prophet] Sulayman had a horse with wings?’ to which the Prophet (pbuh) responded by laughing; this hadeeth indicates the permissibility of children’s figurative toys, owning them and using them, whether they are clearly representative or not, and whether skillfully or crudely fashioned. There is no basis in the hadeeth for making a distinction. Those who say that Aaishah’s dolls were not distinctly representative have made an arbitrary judgement not based on any evidence. What do they say about a winged horse?” [9]

Shaykh Abdul Azeez al-Qaari’
How can apologists claim that the Imam of Masjid Qubaa and professor of tafseer and Quranic recitation at the Islamic University of Medina uses a hadith that is not sahih in deciding the permissibility of doll-playing among Saudi Arabian children? For by doing so, even Shaykh Abdul Azeez al-Qaari’ of Saudi Arabia seems to accept that this hadith is sahih.

If using a weak hadith, a scholar must warn the reader of its weakness:

“Generally, in Islamic law, only the authentic (sahih) and good (hasan) hadiths are used in deriving the rules. The weak (da`if) hadiths have no value for the purpose of Shari`ah. However, the scholars of hadith sometimes differ among themselves in the determination of whether some Hadiths are weak or not. The scholars have sometimes used weak hadiths for moral and spiritual (fada’il) matters. It is important that when one uses a weak hadith for any reason, one should explain it to the people that this is weak hadith and that it is being used for this particular reason.”

IslamOnline.net – The Value of a Weak hadith
It is clear from this article that Shaykh Abdul Azeez al-Qaari’ (Imaam of Masjid Qubaa and professor of tafseer and Quranic recitation at the Islamic University of Medina) did not say anything about Abu-Dawud 4914 being weak – thus it cannot be considered as such.

Please also note what the reference says at the end of the article:

Sunan Abu Dawud, vol. 3, p. 1373, no.4914 and authenticated in Saheeh Sunan Abee Daawood, vol. 3, p. 932, no. 4123

[edit] Summary
In the first section, it was shown that in Islam, doll-playing girls are pre-pubescent according to the doll-playing exegesis of Ibn Hajar and Islamic laws and customs.
In the second section it was shown, using Ibn Hajar’s doll-playing exegesis that Aisha remained a pre-pubescent child when she was married and had sexual intercourse with Muhammad.
In the third section it was shown that Aisha remained pre-pubescent as late as 6 or 7 years after her marriage to Muhammad.
[edit] Conclusion
Does Muhammad meet all these criteria?

Yes – Muhammad had sexual relations with a pre-pubescent child over a prolonged period – likely to have been at least 6 to 7 years.
Yes – Muhammad had acted on his sexual urges – as demonstrated by Tabari IX:131 and various other Bukhari ahadith that state that consummation had taken place at the age of nine when it had been established that Aisha had not reached puberty until she was at least 14 years of age.
Yes – Muhammad was 54 years old while Aisha was only 9 years old at the time of sexual intercourse.
Therefore, even according to the most stringent clinical definition of pedophilia – the DSM-IV-TR – Muhammad would be found guilty as charged.

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Women are Deficient in Intelligence
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Muhammad’s dislike for women caused him to declare that the majority of the inhabitants of Hell are women.[1] When asked why he said it was because they are deficient in intelligence and religion and because they are ungrateful to their husbands. Although Muslim apologists and female Muslims use a lot of creative arguments to explain away Muhammad’s declarations about women, they don’t stand up to scrutiny. This article will present evidence showing Muhammad’s belief that all women are less intelligent than their male counterparts; as well as examine and refute the common Muslim claims about the ahadith in question.

Contents [hide]
1 Evidence
1.1 Ahadith evidence
1.2 Quran evidence
2 Muslim explanations for these ahadith
2.1 Muhammad was referring to that specific group of women only
2.1.1 “Not a blanket statement for all Women”
2.1.2 Scans of male and female brains prove it was only for that group
2.2 Muhammad was using hyperbole to scare women into giving alms
2.3 Deficiency is only about giving financial testimony
2.4 Muhammad was joking
3 More Evidence: al-Tabari’s Tarikh
4 Conclusion
4.1 Further thoughts on these ahadith
5 References
6 See also
7 External links

[edit] Evidence
[edit] Ahadith evidence
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri

On ‘Id ul Fitr or ‘Id ul Adha Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) went out to the Musalla. After finishing the prayer, he delivered the sermon and ordered the people to give alms. He said, “O people! Give alms.” Then he went towards the women and said. “O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women).” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is the reason for it?” He replied, “O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious wise man astray.” Then he left. And when he reached his house, Zainab, the wife of Ibn Masud, came and asked permission to enter It was said, “O Allah’s Apostle! It is Zainab.” He asked, ‘Which Zainab?” The reply was that she was the wife of Ibn Mas’ub. He said, “Yes, allow her to enter.” And she was admitted. Then she said, “O Prophet of Allah! Today you ordered people to give alms and I had an ornament and intended to give it as alms, but Ibn Masud said that he and his children deserved it more than anybody else.” The Prophet replied, “Ibn Masud had spoken the truth. Your husband and your children had more right to it than anybody else.”

Sahih Bukhari 2:24:541
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri

The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The women said, “Yes.” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”

Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826
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[edit] Quran evidence
Yusuf Ali: O ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligations in a fixed period of time, reduce them to writing Let a scribe write down faithfully as between the parties: let not the scribe refuse to write: as Allah Has taught him, so let him write. Let him who incurs the liability dictate, but let him fear His Lord Allah, and not diminish aught of what he owes. If they party liable is mentally deficient, or weak, or unable Himself to dictate, Let his guardian dictate faithfully, and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence). Disdain not to reduce to writing (your contract) for a future period, whether it be small or big: it is juster in the sight of Allah, More suitable as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves but if it be a transaction which ye carry out on the spot among yourselves, there is no blame on you if ye reduce it not to writing. But take witness whenever ye make a commercial contract; and let neither scribe nor witness suffer harm. If ye do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So fear Allah; For it is Good that teaches you. And Allah is well acquainted with all things. If ye are on a journey, and cannot find a scribe, a pledge with possession (may serve the purpose). And if one of you deposits a thing on trust with another, let the trustee (faithfully) discharge his trust, and let him Fear his Lord conceal not evidence; for whoever conceals it, – his heart is tainted with sin. And Allah knoweth all that ye do.

Pickthal: O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you in (terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be not averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell one to another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.

Shakir: O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things

Qur’an 2:282
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[edit] Muslim explanations for these ahadith
[edit] Muhammad was referring to that specific group of women only
Here is a video from Rasha Al-Disuqi, a West Coast based professor, author, and activist.[2] Her topic was “Rights of Muslim women and their rights in society”.

[edit] “Not a blanket statement for all Women”
In the above video she claims:

“That hadith was said at a specific time, during a specific situation, addressing a specific group and it was not meant to be as a blanket statement.”

[3]
There is absolutely no evidence that Muhammad’s statements in the ahadith were directed at that specific group of women because:

1. Muhammad’s sole piece of evidence for this statement is Allah’s mandate in Qur’an 2;282 which states that two women are required to give evidence in the absence of a man; this is to say that the testimony of one woman is equal to 1/2 of a man’s testimony. Nowhere in that verse does it say “This is for the women of Muhammad’s time” or “this is only for a specific group of women.” If the Qur’an is a book for all time, then the testimony of a woman is always the equivalent of 1/2 a man’s testimony in Islam. Therefore, for Muhammad to use this as evidence as to the deficiency of a woman’s mind proves that it was a “blanket statement” over all women who have and will ever live.

2. In the same hadith (not the partial one) Muhammad tells the women that they are also deficient in religion. Islam is very much a works-based religion; every day of fasting ‘counts’ for your reward in heaven, every prayer, every ‘good deed’ (as outlined in the Qur’an). Since women are not allowed to pray or fast during their menses, this means that a woman doing every ‘good deed’ she is able to do, and a man doing every ‘good deed’ they are able to, will result in the man receiving a higher reward from Allah because he was able to do more religious deeds than the female.

Do we also apply the “This was only for that specific group of Women” answer to Muhammad’s claim that women are also deficient in religion? Are women suddenly allowed to fast and pray when they are menstruating? We know they aren’t; so why should we apply one part of the hadith to that specific group of women when the second claim is clearly referring to all Muslim Women?

3. Muhammad said “The majority of the dwellers of Hellfire are Women.” If these ahadith refer only to that group of women, then that group must have been extremely large! Think about how many women have and will exist on this earth throughout time. Now, the majority of the people in Hell are supposedly from this one group of Women that Muhammad was addressing? Where then are the pagans, the atheists, Christians, Jews and hypocritical Muslims? Where are the men? How BIG was this group of women?

Muhammad was clearly making a blanket statement about all women.

[edit] Scans of male and female brains prove it was only for that group
Look at an X-RAY or MRI for that matter, you’ll find that both [male and female] brains are the same; why should they be deficient in any way? Women who are smarter, more intellectual in many fields. THAT argument [ that Muhammad was referring to all women ] is a failure.

The quotes above are also from the Video. This argument is illogical: because modern science has shown us that there is no ‘deficiency’ in a female brain, then Muhammad couldn’t have been referring to every woman. This argument ignores the evidence in favour of a more palatable interpretation. The fact is, modern science and common sense prove Muhammad’s statements to be incorrect. They don’t prove that Muhammad was referring to a specific group of women only; merely that Muhammad was stupid in making a blanket statement.

Rasha then shoots herself in the foot by proving in one short sentence that Muhammad was stupid; she herself knows that Women are not stupid; that they are equal to, or excel men in many fields. But, in order to remain under the influence of someone who called her ‘deficient’ , she must use current knowledge in order to ‘spin’ Muhammad’s words. In essence, when she says “That argument is a failure” she is acknowledging that Muhammad was 100% wrong to make such a claim.

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[edit] Muhammad was using hyperbole to scare women into giving alms
But the Prophet (peace be upon him) was also being playful in his use of strong terms to impress this teaching on the listeners. Ruqayyah Waris Maqsud writes, “After the Farewell Pilgrimage at the Eid prayer, the Prophet walked past the men leaning on Bilal’s arm, and came to the rows of women behind them. Bilal spread out a cloth and the Prophet urged the women to be generous with their gifts of charity, for when he had been allowed a glimpse into the flames of Hell, he had noted that most of the people being tormented there were women.

The women were outraged, and one of them instantly stood up boldly and demanded to know why that was so. ‘Because,’ he replied, ‘you women grumble so much, and show ingratitude to your husbands! Even if the poor fellows spent all their lives doing good things for you, you have only to be upset at the least thing and you will say, ‘I have never received any good from you!’ (Bukhari 1.28, recorded by Ibn Abbas – who was present on that occasion as a child).

At that the women began vigorously to pull off their rings and ear-rings, and throw them into Bilal’s cloth.”

Answering-Christianity [4]
This is a very sneaky presentation of evidence. This interpretation attempts to draw together two different sets of ahadith and present them as the same event. The first set is provided above. Here are the ones for this specific interpretation:

Ibn ‘Abbas reported: I participated in the Fitr prayer with the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthman, and all of them observed this prayer before the Khutba, and then he (the Holy Prophet) delivered the sermon. Then the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) descended (from the pulpit) and I (perceive) as if I am seeing him as he is commanding people with his hand to sit down. He then made his way through their (assembly) till he came to the women. Bilal was with him. He then recited (this verse): O Prophet, when believing women come to thee giving thee a pledge that they will not associate aught with Allah” (lx. 12) till he finished (his address to) them and then said: Do you conform to it (what has been described in the verse)? Only one woman among them replied: Yes, Apostle of Allah, but none else replied. He (the narrator) said: It could not be ascertained who actually she was. He (the Holy Prophet) exhorted them to give alms. Bilal stretched his cloth and then said: Come forward with alms. Let my father and mother be taken as ransom for you. And they began to throw rings and ringlets in the cloth of Bilal.

Sahih Muslim 4:1923
Ibn ‘Abbas reported: I bear testimony to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) offering prayer before Kutba. He (after saying prayer) delivered the Kutba, and he found that the women could not hear it, so he came to them and exhorted them and preached them and commanded them to give alms, and Bilal had stretched his cloth and the women were throwing rings, earrings and other things. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Ayyub with the same chain of transmitters.

Sahih Muslim 4:1924
Jabir b. ‘Abdullah reported: I observed prayer with the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) on the ‘Id day. He commenced with prayer before the sermon without Adhan and Iqama. He then stood up leaning on Bilal, and he commanded (them) to be on guard (against evil for the sake of) Allah, and he exhorted (them) on obedience to Him, and he preached to the people and admonished them. He then walked on till he came to the women and preached to them and admonished them, and asked them to give alms, for most of them are the fuel for Hell. A woman having a dark spot on the cheek stood up and said: Why is it so, Messenger of Allah? He said: For you grumble often and show ingratitude to your spouse. And then they began to give alms out of their ornaments such as their earrings and rings which they threw on to the cloth of Bilal.

Sahih Muslim 4:1926
It is true that Muhammad approached the women after prayer in both sets of ahadith; and that he asked them to give alms. However we note in the second set, not even once, does Muhammad make the same claims about Women’s intelligence or religion. He merely states that women are ungrateful in an effort to goad them into giving more charity. If these ahadith were narrations of the same event, you would expect a mention of intelligence or religion.

Even if this explanation was right, it still doesn’t explain why Muhammad called women deficient in intelligence, and then directed them to the mandate in Qur’an 2:282 as evidence for this deficiency. If his aim was simply to get them to donate more money, surely a threat of hellfire and calling them ungrateful would have sufficed for his purpose; and evidently it did.

Muhammad also knew that Hellfire was a great motivator to his followers; once he found a threat that worked, he milked it for all it was worth. Because of the discrepancies between the two sets of narrations, we can conclude that the two sets of narrations are from separate events; and that Muhammad simply re-used a scare tactic in order to get what he wanted.

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[edit] Deficiency is only about giving financial testimony
The Claim: Muhammad did say women are deficient in Intelligence. However, since his evidence was Quran 2:282, Muhammad was only referring to the deficiency of women when giving testimony for financial transactions.

Qur’an 2:282 states that the second female witness is required (in lieu of a man) because the first woman may forget; therefore the second can remind her. This implies that women have bad memories and are prone, more so then men, to forget details. On first look, this explanation looks quite reasonable; however in the ahadith, Muhammad did not specify that the testimony of women, in financial cases only was the cause of their intelligence defects. If this were truly only about testimony for financial cases, then Muhammad would have specified this. His statement “Isn’t it true that THE testimony of two women is equal to that of a man” strongly implies that two female witnesses are required for any type of testimony; and in no way implies that it is for financial testimony only.

After all, if this is the deficiency in her intelligence; then Muhammad is clearly referring to the fact that Allah believes that women have bad memories; and this is the reason a woman is deficient.

[edit] Muhammad was joking
The Claim: Muhammad knew that group of women very well, and as he would pass by them he would joke around with them. When he said that they were deficient in Intelligence and Religion he was joking around. They understood this.

This is one of the most bizarre claims I’ve come across regarding these ahadith. When asked for evidence, the claimant is unable to do so. In any case, there is absolutely no evidence in the ahadith or elsewhere that this was an ‘in joke’ between Muhammad and these women.

Muhammad also backs up these “jokes” with reference to the Qur’an, which he’d obviously take very seriously as the alleged prophet.

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[edit] More Evidence: al-Tabari’s Tarikh
In the discussion thus far we have presented Sahih ahadith attributed to Muhammad and have demonstrated each hadith was intended to be applied to all women for all time. We have seen Muslims attempt to explain away this assertion and argue that the ahadith applied only to certain women or particular situations, and did not apply to all women for all time. Which is the truth? What is the original source of Muhammad’s view of women; where did it originate from?

Abu Jafar Muhammad bin Jarir al-Tabari is recognized as one of the greatest of all Islamic scholars. He not only wrote one of the most authoritative Tafsir (commentary of the Qur’an) but also wrote a history of the world (tarikh) from the Islamic worldview. Published in English as The History of al-Tabari (SUNY Press, NY) in 39 volumes, this work presents world history from the creation account up until al-Tabari’s death. When we consult al-Tabari’s tarikh we find the source of Muhammad’s view of women.

When God created Adam and Eve and placed them in the garden, they were told to not eat of a certain tree. Eve was tempted by Iblis (Satan) to eat of the tree, and she then gave some to Adam to eat also. Adam and Eve try to flee from God because of shame after their private parts were exposed. From this act of disobedience of Eve came God’s curse on women.

His Lord called out to him: Adam, is it from Me that you are fleeing? Adam replied: No, my Lord, but I feel shame before You. When God asked what had caused his trouble, he replied: Eve, My Lord. Whereupon God said: Now it is My obligation to make her bleed once every month, as she made this tree bleed. I also must make her stupid, although I created her intelligent (halimah), and must make her suffer pregnancy. Ibn Zayd continued: Were it not for the affliction that affected Eve, the women of this world wound not menstruate, and they would be intelligent and, when pregnant, give birth easily.

The History of Al-Tabari: Volume 1[5]
[edit] Conclusion
The meaning of these ahadith is very clear. Muhammad “blanketed” a statement over every single woman who has ever and will ever live. Despite many creative ways to explain away the meaning and implications of these ahadith, the actual evidence cannot be denied. Muhammad clearly said that women are deficient in intelligence because, in Islam, the value of their testimony is equal to that of half a man. If the Qur’an is a book for all people for all time, then that mandate stands; thus Muhammad was referring to all women in general; and not just a specific group of women.

[edit] Further thoughts on these ahadith
This set of ahadith clearly show Muhammad’s hatred for women. He implemented every rule he could think of to keep them under the control of men and in a state of humiliation. Look at the Three reasons that Muhammad lists for women being in Allah’s Hell:

1. Deficient in Intelligence: The Qur’an was ‘revealed’ by Muhammad on behalf of his imaginary deity, Allah; thus Muhammad himself made the requirement that the testimony of two women is equal to a man. He then goes on to tell women that they will most likely end up in hell; because their intellectual deficiency, which he defined and imposed ‘safeguards’ against. No evidence; just “I said so!” What better way to belittle women than to continually remind them that they are ‘stupid’.

2. Deficient in Religion: Again, Muhammad himself ‘revealed’ the entirety of Islam; its rules, regulations and requirements, rewards etc.. What better way to keep women down? Tell them your works-based religion, that they cannot perform any of these good works (praying, fasting etc..) when they are menstruating! This keeps them in a state of fear, because they have to make up for the days they were unable to be ‘pious’; making them more submissive to Islam then men. Then you get Muhammad who comes along, after making this silly rule about menstruation; and tells women that most of them will end up in hell because of it! In essence, he’s saying that in his religion, women will end up in hell simply for being born female!

3. Ungrateful to their Husbands: Again, Muhammad wanted his wives; and all Muslim women within his reach (in case he wanted to marry them) to be as submissive to their husbands as possible. He scares them with threats of hellfire to make them more submissive, and fearful of Allah; thereby keeping women under the thumb of their husbands. As a result, to this day, Muslim women, and women in general, are thought of by Muslims as intellectually inferior to themselves. Perhaps this is why Muslim women especially are trying to twist the meaning of these ahadith and narrow down the testimony requirement in Quran 2:282; its either that or admit Muhammad was wrong.

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[edit] References
↑ Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301
↑ Book review and Profile of Rasha al-Disuqi
↑ Video lecture of Rasha Al-Disuqi; Topic: “Rights of Muslim women and their rights in society”.
↑ Are Women Deficient in Intelligence and Religion? – Answering-Christianity.com
↑ History of al-Tabari, New York: State University of New York Press, 1989, Volume 1, pages 280-281
[edit] See also
Quotations from the Quran and Hadith:Women
Videos on Islam: Women
Images:Violence Against Women
[edit] External links
Quran 2:282 – FFI Forum – A 20-page Discussion with a Muslim regarding why two women are required to give testimony in the absence of one Man. Just a Woman (the Muslim) continually tries to separate the ahadith from the Qur’an verse in order to ‘explain’ them separately.
Islam: Women are “deficient in intelligence” (video) – Saudi Cleric Abd Al-Aziz Al-Fawzan responds on Saudi TV to the criticism made by ‘enemies’ of Islam against Muhammad’s “women are deficient” statement. He says these ahadith in fact prove the Islam detractors wrong by showing women’s twisted nature stems from their very creation. Therefore men should tolerate their slip-ups, errors and the silly ignorant things they say. And the fact that a women’s emotions may overpower her mind, only makes her more attractive to the male. He ends his enlightening refutation by quoting further wisdom from Muhammad, “When a man calls his wife to fulfil his needs, she must go to him, even if she is busy with the oven.”

WELL…BHINDUSS CAN GO 2 NE EXTNT…AFTER ALLL, YE LOG INSANIYAT KENAAM PE DHABBA HAIN…BEGHIRAT KEEDEY….PEHLE PAKSTAN KO BURA BHALA KEHTEY THEY AB HAZOOR SAW KO….SHAME ON DEM….IS DUINYA MEIN BHI INKI GAND JALE GI…AUR AKHIRAT MEIN TO IN KE LIYE AAAG HI AAG HAI….WHY DO DEY 4RGT DET 1000 SAAL YE GULAMI KI ZINDAGI GUZARTE RAHE HAIN..

Reading the comments above (“Women are Stupid: The Qur’an says so” and the rest above) … it does seem Mr. Hamid has hit the raw nerve. Hence, our neighbours have got into a frenzy and are throwing all possible crap at us.

This indeed prove Mr. Hamid right again, they read our religious texts more than us !!

For all those not in the know … all the above disinformational topics have been well studied and well answered (just do your research and you’ll find the answer), and are hence OLD STORY !! You’ll find these blowing the same old trumpet over and over again, all around the web, cuz they don’t have anything else and they DO want drive people away from the issues at hand.